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DKlahre

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Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« on: September 30, 2014, 01:00:49 am »
I don't know if I'm experiencing a bug.
 
I already had a Wordpress post designed for my first podcast episode.

http://venturecoffeetalk.com/two-entrepreneurs-and-their-success

I uploaded it to libsyn then created the podcast feed using your WP software. I went to the editor of the post that was predesigned and stuck in the lipsyn address. Then I went to the plugin's "Feed" tab to validate and I got like 7 errors.

http://feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fventurecoffeetalk.com%2Ffeed%2Fpodcast%2F

Strange how the errors are from another post. Anyway, I took out the lipsyn address from the post and created a blank post and then put the lipsysn address in there. Upon validating under the Feed tab again, I still get the same errors.


#1) How do I get rid of these errors?
#2) Does it really matter if these errors exist or not?

Thanks so much!
Dan

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2014, 08:15:14 am »
First off, your feed does validate.   The "errors" you mention are not errors, but recommendations. 

If you only intend to have 1 episode in the feed at this point, you need to go edit the other two posts that are showing up and remove the podcast episode (check the box).  What happened there is you had an mp3 linked and powerpress turned it into a podcast episode.  IF you remove the 2 episodes that are not really episodes, the linked files will still be available in the posts, but not in the feed (which is what you want).

Hope that helps :)

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2014, 09:36:35 am »
I have 3 posts with mp3s embedded. I have gone to the editing page of each post and saw that the "Podcast" category is unchecked.

I still get the errors though.

On line 79 I get an error for this code
<p><script type="text/javascript" src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.11.1/jquery.min.js"></script></p>

But on line 160 there's no problem for the same code belonging to another post

What's strange is that the error belongs to a post that I didn't change.


These are the 3 posts in my blog that have mp3 players that I rigged in. I have them marked as "uncategorized" as a category:

http://venturecoffeetalk.com/two-entrepreneurs-and-their-success
http://venturecoffeetalk.com/innovation-through-design-thinking
http://venturecoffeetalk.com/mahwah-new-jersey-tax-haven

Here is a separate post that I have classified as a "Podcast" as a category. It's the only one I have classified as such.

 http://venturecoffeetalk.com/back-to-the-roots-feed


This is the feed report that shows the errors
http://feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fventurecoffeetalk.com%2Ffeed%2Fpodcast%2F


I appreciate so much the help....

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2014, 09:51:23 am »
Look at the feed validator report again.  It says "Congratulations".  This means your feed is valid.  No "Errors".  Below that it says "Recommendations".  Those are things (mostly) that you can fix.  The one about the rawvoice namespace is just because feedvalidator hasn't been updated in years and doesn't know of that namespace. 

The others, if they are in posts that you do not intend to be podcast episodes, can be corrected by going to the bottom of each post in the edit template (Edit the post) and click on the checkbox that says " Remove podcast episode" and save the post (update).   That will take them out of your feed. 

In the future, category means nothing to the feed you are using.  To post as a podcast episode, you would put the URL of the media file into the podcast episode box in the media URL box and hit verify.   Again, it doesn't matter what category you put it in for the feed. 

See: http://create.blubrry.com/resources/powerpress/using-powerpress/creating-your-first-episode-with-powerpress/ for how to post an episode to the feed.

If you just link to an mp3 file in your post, it will not become an episode in the feed.  That only happens when you first install powerpress (which is why you have extra stuff in your feed right now. 

-Mike

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2014, 10:40:19 am »

Mike,
    Thanks so much for the help! I have a question about separating regular blog posts and podcast feed posts.
Initially, I had made this post last week and I thought yesterday that making it into a podcast feed post just made
sense:

http://venturecoffeetalk.com/two-entrepreneurs-and-their-success

But I thought there might be confusion so then I took out the podcast feed functionality on the edit panel.
Then I created the post below, inserted my lipsyn address and made it the podcast feed post.

 http://venturecoffeetalk.com/back-to-the-roots-feed


My questions are:
A) Is it OK to have a regular blog post function as a podcast post? With the fact that I rigged in
an HTML 5 player it seems like there may be problems. It also seems like Google may ignore
the post.

B) If I do stick with making a separate podcast post for every regular post, why should
I put any text information in the podcast post? iTunes just wants to see the sound file
metadata which I've embedded into the sound file itself.  It also wants to see the show information
which is in the back end and is not seen thanks to your software.

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2014, 11:20:35 am »
Use "regular" blog posts as podcasts.  No need to make a separate Podcast post if the text content is your "show notes" for the media.

Podcasting is just blogging with a media file attached.  Leaving the text of your post along with your podcast episode is good for SEO within iTunes. 

The podcast only feed ( in your powerpress feeds tab) will only include posts with a media file.  That's what powerpress does. 

Use the link I posted about how to post your first episode with powerpress as a guide for all your podcast posts.   Your regular posts, ones without audio, will not go out to iTunes and other directories if you use the podcast only feed (which is what you should do).

-Mike


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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2014, 11:52:50 am »

Thanks Mike, I will now definitely use each regular post as my podcast post feed.
To make sure there won't be any conflicts, I went into the media appearance
tab and made sure the Display Media function shows the player under post content.

http://venturecoffeetalk.com/two-entrepreneurs-and-their-success

As you can see, the PowerPress player is automatically shown ALONG WITH another
instance of the player that I rigged into the top of the post. I can check the disable
button so as to not display the player on the bottom, but with what you see now
do you see any potential problems after I send the feed to iTunes?

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2014, 11:54:49 am »
No, looks good. 

I would leave both players there.   It doesn't look bad and doubles the chance someone will click play. 

Happy Podcasting!

-Mike

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 04:25:17 pm »
Hey Mike,
   I just submitted my feed to iTunes for approval and I'm really excited. One question though; when my custom podcast channel says I have 6 episodes when in reality I have only one that I've designated with your plugin. The feed is here:

venturecoffeetalk.com/feed/podcast/

You might recall that I have in total, 3 posts with audio embedded in them using an HTML5 player. Perhaps your software is reading these and multiplying times 2 because of a bug. Anyhow, my lack of experience doesn't allow me to ask intelligent questions, but do you see a problem here?


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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2014, 09:33:14 am »
I pasted in a part of the feed and inside the tags I can see code that works with my my own rigged in HTML 5 player


<itunes:summary>
$(function(){ $('audio').panzer({theme: 'dark', layout: 'big', volume: 80, showvolume: true, expanded: true, showduration : true, title: 'Daylight Design - Brett Newman'}); });       This interview is for the sensible person who understands that life is short and so our energies have to be focused on projects that will work. It's a shame how a lot of people end up feeling content with failed projects as "good learning experiences" when the best option is to learn and succeed at the same time. In this goldmine of an interview, I talk with a prominent innovation and design consultant named Brett Newman... a man who has a lot to bring to the table. Whether you're an inventor, an author or a school curriculum planner, your continued success really relies on how well you adhere to the concept of design thinking. Plastic products are a central part of our culture, but it's rare to meet someone who's actually designed one because of the lack of knowledge and resources. With the advent of new prototyping technology, plastic manufacturing is available to anyone with a dream.     Below you can see the team of Daylight Design discussing my newest hybrid product, a Pez candy dispenser / cigarette lighter. No, just kidding... They're really discussing the design details of the Logitech TV Cam, a project that helped them win a much coveted international award for sleek and innovative design.
</itunes:summary>

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2014, 10:37:00 am »
To fix the problem I took out my player from the three posts. The strange thing is that I've designated only one post to be part of the Podcast feed, and still all 3 posts are part of it. Not only that, the remaining two are playing audio clips that the old player was playing... and there's nothing anywhere in the blog that would connect these clips to your player.

I inserted my own HTML 5 player previously because the default Wordpress player would get stuck on certain versions of Chrome. So you can see my quandary here.

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2014, 10:44:26 am »
On the 2 posts where there is audio files getting into your feed, you need to edit the posts.

At the bottom, click the "modify podcast episode" box.  then click the box next to "remove".  Save the post.

This will take the mp3 file out of your podcast feed leaving only the one you want in there. 

-Mike

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2014, 02:43:57 pm »
My feed was accepted and is now in the iTunes store. But are are 3 shows listed instead of 1 because of the aforementioned problem. I used your advice to take the 2 episodes out of the feed and it worked.

1) After taking the 2 episodes out, will there only be one shown in the store after the feed updates?
2) Is there a way to dictate what the order will be of these 2 episodes when I add them to the feed later?

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2014, 02:45:54 pm »
1. Yes, but give iTunes some time to update. 

2. You really want the latest one first and working backwards.   There is a setting in powerpress for iTunes order.

-Mike

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Re: Perhaps a bug that causes validator errors
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2014, 05:00:40 pm »
I added the ordering functionality for each feed post. I am hoping that the number 1 means the last to be shown. If it means the first to be shown, then I will have to change the numbers for each feed post each time I add a new episode. A little confused...